Those Who Start Their Own Church Follow the Voice of Satan: 11 Teachings from St. Cyprian AD 250

“He [Satan] has invented heresies and schisms, whereby he might subvert the faith, might corrupt the truth, might divide the unity.”

St. Cyprian, a Bishop and Martyr.

Listers, our Lord Jesus Christ is not returning to our world for a harem of “churches.” There is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and it was founded by Christ and charged by him to St. Peter and the Apostles. However, there are now and always have been those groups that attempt to rend Christ from his Church – to recreate that which God gave us, the Church. In AD 250, St. Cyprian wrote an outstanding work entitled On the Unity of the Church. The epistle focuses especially on the topic of schism and those who would set themselves up as Church leaders and/or start their own “churches.” Without question, these groups are proto-protestant groups and the saint’s arguments apply just as much to our modern schismatic and heretical groups as they did to his ancient schismatic groups.1

Dear Protestant Readers
I ask you to consider the following a call to dialogue. St. Cyprian’s text is not a Catholic apologetic tract or a work from the Counter-Reformation, but an epistle from the Early Church. Growing up protestant there are simply certain questions that are never asked concerning the Christian faith, because those questions are outside the deeply rooted assumptions that support protestantism. Amongst those questions are ones concerning Christ and his Church. Protestants wonder how does one discern whether they are called to start a church? but rarely ask by what biblical authority does one start a church? Again, a distinction can be seen in asking what kind of church should we start? and the Catholic question of what type of Church did Christ intend to start? Asking biblical questions regarding Christ and his intention for his Spouse, the Church is the beginning of wisdom in discerning how God intended his charity and his salvation to be communicated to the world.

West, Expulsion of Adam & Eve from Paradise 1791

1. The New Voice of Satan

Pulling from Chapter III of St. Cyprian’s text, the saint teaches that those who call themselves “Christians” but leave the Catholic Church for a Christian sect are following the voice of Satan. Paganism was crumbling under the growth of the Church; thus, Satan started a “new way” to deceive.

The New Way of Satan
“He [Satan] has invented heresies and schisms, whereby he might subvert the faith, might corrupt the truth, might divide the unity. Those whom he cannot keep in the darkness of the old way2, he circumvents and deceives by the error of a new way3. He snatches men from the Church itself; and while they seem to themselves to have already approached to the light, and to have escaped the night of the world, he pours over them again, in their unconsciousness, new darkness.”

Still Call Themselves Christian
“So that, although they do not stand firm with the Gospel of Christ, and with the observation and law of Christ, they still call themselves Christians, and, walking in darkness, they think that they have the light, while the adversary is flattering and deceiving, who, according to the apostle’s word, transforms himself into an angel of light, and equips his ministers as if they were the ministers of righteousness, who maintain night instead of day, death for salvation, despair under the offer of hope, perfidy under the pretext of faith, antichrist under the name of Christ; so that, while they feign things like the truth, they make void the truth by their subtlety. This happens, beloved brethren, so long as we do not return to the source of truth, as we do not seek the head nor keep the teaching of the heavenly Master.”

This “new way” of Satan is the modus operandi that extends back to the garden. Satan does not tempt Adam and Eve with rebellion, but with being “like God.” Satan’s “new way” is to sell an incomplete and heretical faith to those seeking God.

St. Peter is the first Vicar of Christ and was given the keys of the Kingdom by Christ.

2. Founded upon the Apostles

In Chapter IV the saint moves to speaking of the “easy proof for faith in a short summary of the truth.” He rests this proof upon Christ’s charge to St. Peter and the Apostles. Here a watershed issue enters between Catholic and Protestant thought. For protestantism to consider itself legitimate – not a schismatic heresy – it must interpret all these apostolic charges as general proclamations from to Christ to any believer at any time; therefore, any person who so deems could start a new “church” just as the Apostles founded the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

It should be sufficient to point out that Christianity believed in no such thing until the Protestant Reformation of the 1500s; thus, the concept is and was little more than rewriting biblical doctrine to serve and legitimate rebellious actions. Along with the biblical evidence and historical confirmation of Christ founding a structured apostolic Church, the protestant view hinges upon the idea that perfect faith and love can exist in disunity and dissent. Again, trying to navigate the incompatibility of love and faith with disunity, protestantism has – through centuries of in-fighting, splintering groups and cultural conformity – both boiled down the Christian faith to a fraction of apostolic and biblical existence and adopted the quasi-platonic stance that although all physical “ecclesiastical groups”4 exist in both hierarchical and doctrinal chaos they are unified by “Christ” in a mystical manner. In this scenario, Christ stops being a historical and divine person and become a malleable concept and/or term.

Upon This Rock
“There is easy proof for faith in a short summary of the truth. The Lord speaks to Peter, saying, “I say unto thee, that thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” And again to the same He says, after His resurrection, “Feed my sheep.”

Apostolic Authority
“And although to all the apostles, after His resurrection, He gives an equal power, and says, “As the Father hath sent me, even so send I you: Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they shall be remitted unto him; and whose soever sins ye retain, they shall be retained;” yet, that He might set forth unity, He arranged by His authority the origin of that unity, as beginning from one. Assuredly the rest of the apostles were also the same as was Peter, endowed with a like partnership both of honour and power; but the beginning proceeds from unity.”

For St. Cyprian, the presence of St. Peter among the twelve provides a mark of ecclesial unity that safeguards the entire unity of the Church – where there is Peter, there is the Church. What schismatic groups fail to comprehend is that Christ founded a living breath physical Church. A study of Christ of the Son of David, the Old Testament motif of awaiting the New Davidic Kingdom, the Vicar role in the Kingdom of David and the Vicar of Christ as seen in St. Peter and other biblical realities help form the very core of understanding the Holy Catholic Church as the fulfillment of the Old Testament and the will of Christ Jesus.

Christ Founded the Church Upon St. Peter
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13 Biblical Reasons St. Peter Was the “Prince of the Apostles”


St Cyprian, Bishop and Martyr, pray for us.

3. Bishops Protect the Church

Chapter V grants the reader both a practical and an analogous insight. The saint exhorts bishops of the Church to hold together the unity of the Church, and while this may not seem profound, it is a thwart to those who would try and state that the hierarchy of bishops did not exist in this time. The second insight is a well written analogy of the Sun and the Church.

“And this unity we ought firmly to hold and assert, especially those of us that are bishops who preside in the Church, that we may also prove the episcopate itself to be one and undivided. Let no one deceive the brotherhood by a falsehood: let no one corrupt the truth of the faith by perfidious prevarication. The episcopate is one, each part of which is held by each one for the whole.”

The Analogy of the Sun
“The Church also is one, which is spread abroad far and wide into a multitude by an increase of fruitfulness. As there are many rays of the sun, but one light; and many branches of a tree, but one strength based in its tenacious root; and since from one spring flow many streams, although the multiplicity seems diffused in the liberality of an overflowing abundance, yet the unity is still preserved in the source. Separate a ray of the sun from its body of light, its unity does not allow a division of light; break a branch from a tree,—when broken, it will not be able to bud; cut off the stream from its fountain, and that which is cut off dries up. Thus also the Church, shone over with the light of the Lord, sheds forth her rays over the whole world, yet it is one light which is everywhere diffused, nor is the unity of the body separated. Her fruitful abundance spreads her branches over the whole world. She broadly expands her rivers, liberally flowing, yet her head is one, her source one; and she is one mother, plentiful in the results of fruitfulness: from her womb we are born, by her milk we are nourished, by her spirit we are animated.”


There can be only one Church as we have only one God.

4. Church as Mother

In Chapter VI, the saint discusses the Church herself and delivers one of his most famous lines:

“He can no longer have God for his Father, who has not the Church for his mother.”

Can the Spouse of Christ Be Adulterous?
“The spouse of Christ cannot be adulterous; she is uncorrupted and pure. She knows one home; she guards with chaste modesty the sanctity of one couch. She keeps us for God. She appoints the sons whom she has born for the kingdom. Whoever is separated from the Church and is joined to an adulteress, is separated from the promises of the Church; nor can he who forsakes the Church of Christ attain to the rewards of Christ. He is a stranger; he is profane; he is an enemy. He can no longer have God for his Father, who has not the Church for his mother.”

The Holy Catholic Church cannot be reduced to a simple hierarchy that can historically trace its lineage to Christ, but it is centered and held together by a sacramental unity and the Holy Spirit. The Sacraments and the Holy Spirit further the truth that charity and faith cannot exist in disunity.


Michelangelo's "Moses," who yes, does have horns.

5. The People of God Always Had Unity

Chapter VII gives us the example of the undivided Church and Christ’s undivided garment. Chapter VIII can be characterized by a movement into Eucharistic Unity. The saint utilizes biblical examples from the New and Old Testament to demonstrate that God has always held his people to unity.

No Eucharist Outside the Church
“Also, the sacrament of the passover contains nothing else in the law of the Exodus than that the lamb which is slain in the figure of Christ should be eaten in one house. God speaks, saying, “In one house shall ye eat it; ye shall not send its flesh abroad from the house.”

St. Cyprian pulls from St. John, St. Paul, Exodus and Joshua to show that never before in the history of the People of God as there ever been a time where God did not hold the people to both a spiritual and physical unity. From Moses to St. Peter, the People of God have never been allowed to separate doctrinal unity from structural unity.


The Schismatics of Dante's Inferno by Gustave

6. Schism Creeps Like Cancer

Chapter X pulls no punches. After laying a foundation for understanding the true hierarchical and sacramental unity of the Church, the saint speaks candidly about those who decide – for any reason, even the infamous “God told me…” – to appoint themselves a pastor and/or start their own church.

Those Who Start Their Own Church Vomit Poison
“These are they who of their own accord, without any divine arrangement, set themselves to preside among the daring strangers assembled, who appoint themselves prelates without any law of ordination, who assume to themselves the name of bishop, although no one gives them the episcopate; whom the Holy Spirit points out in the Psalms as sitting in the seat of pestilence, plagues, and spots of the faith, deceiving with serpent’s tongue, and artful in corrupting the truth, vomiting forth deadly poisons from pestilential tongues; whose speech doth creep like a cancer, whose discourse forms a deadly poison in the heart and breast of every one.”


The Catholic Church is founded upon the person of Christ, the true Word of God.

7. The Person of Christ

Chapter XII address a mainstay argument of both ancient and modern schismatic groups: Isn’t the Church where two or three are gathered together in the name of Christ?

Gathered to One Christ
“For wheresoever two or three are gathered together in my name, I am with them;” showing that most is given, not to the multitude, but to the unanimity of those that pray. “If,” He says, “two of you shall agree on earth:” He placed agreement first; He has made the concord of peace a prerequisite; He taught that we should agree firmly and faithfully. But how can he agree with any one who does not agree with the body of the Church itself, and with the universal brotherhood? How can two or three be assembled together in Christ’s name, who, it is evident, are separated from Christ and from His Gospel? For we have not withdrawn from them, but they from us; and since heresies and schisms have risen subsequently, from their establishment for themselves of diverse places of worship, they have forsaken the Head and Source of the truth.”

Heretical and schismatic groups – which include protestantism – cannot be gathered together to the true Christ, because their doctrines, beliefs and actions all point to a pantheon of “Christs.” To wit, protestantism is gathered around the term “Jesus Christ,” not the person.5 The same theme can be seen in Chapter XII:

Priests and Sacrifice6
“What sacrifices do those who are rivals of the priests think that they celebrate? Do they deem that they have Christ with them when they are collected together, who are gathered together outside the Church of Christ?”


A section of the "Martyrdom of St. Peter" by Leonello Spada (1576–1622)

8. Non-Catholics Are Not Martyrs

Chapter XIV addresses a topic that our “modern sensibilities” find unsettling. The question at hand is whether or not schismatic or heretical individuals who die in the name of Christ are martyrs. Since we’ve seen that Christ is not amongst them because they gather around a term not a person, the answer of martyrdom will inevitably be no. The saint explains:

Blood Does Not Wash the Stain of Schism
“Even if such men were slain in confession of the Name, that stain is not even washed away by blood: the inexpiable and grave fault of discord is not even purged by suffering. He cannot be a martyr who is not in the Church; he cannot attain unto the kingdom who forsakes that which shall reign there.”

They Can Be Killed, Not Crowned
“They cannot dwell with God who would not be of one mind in God’s Church. Although they burn, given up to flames and fires, or lay down their lives, thrown to the wild beasts, that will not be the crown of faith, but the punishment of perfidy; nor will it be the glorious ending of religious valour, but the destruction of despair. Such a one may be slain; crowned he cannot be. He professes himself to be a Christian in such a way as the devil often feigns himself to be Christ, as the Lord Himself forewarns us, and says, “Many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and shall deceive many.” As he is not Christ, although he deceives in respect of the name; so neither can he appear as a Christian who does not abide in the truth of His Gospel and of faith.”


"Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding." - Martin Luther

9. Rebels Against Christ’s Sacrifice

Chapter XVII makes clear that there is no unity in Christ without unity with the Church. Again, notice that he speaks of priests in this paragraph and spoke of bishops, apostles and St. Peter previously. Any notion that the Catholic Church was a medieval invention or developed later in history is simply historically false.

Enemies of the Altar
“Does he think that he has Christ, who acts in opposition to Christ’s priests, who separates himself from the company of His clergy and people? He bears arms against the Church, he contends against God’s appointment. An enemy of the altar, a rebel against Christ’s sacrifice, for the faith faithless, for religion profane, a disobedient servant, an impious son, a hostile brother, despising the bishops, and forsaking God’s priests, he dares to set up another altar, to make another prayer with unauthorized words, to profane the truth of the Lord’s offering by false sacrifices, and not to know that he who strives against the appointment of God, is punished on account of the daring of his temerity by divine visitation.”


The Pope is the "Advocate of Christian Memory."

10. The Spouse of Christ Cannot be Torn

Chapter XXIII returns to the reality of the Church as Body of Christ, the Spouse of Christ and the Mother of All Who Live in Christ; therefore, how could this Sacred Body be torn apart via schism and heresy?

The Church is One
“God is one, and Christ is one, and His Church is one, and the faith is one, and the people is joined into a substantial unity of body by the cement of concord. Unity cannot be severed; nor can one body be separated by a division of its structure, nor torn into pieces, with its entrails wrenched asunder by laceration. Whatever has proceeded from the womb cannot live and breathe in its detached condition, but loses the substance of health.”


"The Last Judgment" - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1475–1564)

11. Christ Comes Back for the Church

Chapter XXVII concludes the saints work On the Unity of the Church by asking: How will Christ know who to come back for? St. Cyprian’s answer is that He will come for his Bride, the Church.

Let Our Faith Be on Watch
“Let our light shine in good works, and glow in such wise as to lead us from the night of this world to the daylight of eternal brightness. Let us always with solicitude and caution wait for the sudden coming of the Lord, that when He shall knock, our faith may be on the watch, and receive from the Lord the reward of our vigilance. If these commands be observed, if these warnings and precepts be kept, we cannot be overtaken in slumber by the deceit of the devil; but we shall reign with Christ in His kingdom as servants that watch.”

  1. Novatian: Another impetus of the epistle was the first “anti-pope” who attempted to claim he was holier than the rest of the Church and claimed moral superiority, especially in not wanting to ever extend forgiveness to sins post-baptism. []
  2. Paganism []
  3. Christian Heresy and Schism []
  4. Are Protestant groups churches? As taught by tradition and Vatican II, protestant groups are not referred to as “churches” but “ecclesial communities.” []
  5. When Cyprian Was Wrong: Chapter XI – St. Cyprian’s faltered on the issue of whether or not people should be “re-baptized,” e.g., if a heretic baptized someone in the name of the Trinity, he advocated re-baptism. This was later seen as wrong – but was a legitimate point in the argument since doctrine had not been clarified yet – and the Pope issued that all Trinitarian baptisms are valid, but if done is schismatic groups, etc. then they must later reclaim their baptism via penance. []
  6. Reformation & Priests: The term Priest denotes Sacrifice. It is for this reason Catholic clergy are foremost referred to as priests above other titles, e.g., pastor, reverend, etc. However, since the schismatics and heretics of the Reformation denied the true presence of the Eucharist and as such stopped calling their clergy priests. []
  • Mike

    Well done

  • Ed Roane

    Thank You!
    How can I share this on Facebook?

    • Ed,

      If you look above the right upper corner of the article’s header image of St. Cyprian, you will see four grey icons of different social media outlets. The first one is for sharing on Facebook and the second is for twitter, etc. You can also always copy and paste the url as well.

      Cheers and thank you for reading.

  • Jim

    Outstanding! This is why I became Catholic 20 years ago and am now a Church Militant. Thank you for this wonderful article.

  • Cullen

    I’m afraid of how this article may lead to arrogance and pridefulness among Catholics. And, unfortunately, this article may actually serve to further disunity and prevent true unity among the Church that is in Christ alone. The Church is the body of Christ outside of any organized and titled group whether it is the Baptists, Presbyterians, or the Catholics. As Christ said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life and NO ONE comes to the Father but by HIM.” Also see 1 Corinthians 12 for a description of unity.

  • How does this apply with the Orthodox having legitimate Sacraments?

  • Dianne Kinder

    I am also afraid that this article makes the Catholic Church seem quite arrogant and it leads me to have more questions about how I feel about religion especially my Catholic one. I was brought up Catholic and for 60 years I have been a good one. My priest it publishing this article in our church bulletin and for the first time I really question the caring and charity of our church. My children were raised Catholic and my husband, who was not Catholic, stood with us in church every Sunday and now you are saying that his religion was wrong and that all my friends are wrong.I can not believe that my church could be so narcissistic. I do not know where in the Bible that it says that the Catholic faith is the only one right faith. The Bible gospels were chosen by Constantinople and his scribes.

    • Steve Cunningham

      No the gospels were not chosen by Constantinople. Yes, there is only 1 Church not churches. Sometimes one must risk appearing arrogant to speak the truth (Socrates). Outside the Church there is no salvation. Only 1 boat made it thru the great flood & that was Noah’s ark. Others made boats (common sense would say the people didn’t bust out lawn chairs but tried to do something) & they didn’t make it. The ark is a ‘type’ of the Church. Only one. All others are man made built on sand.

      • Louise

        Right on !………….love what you said !!!

        We DEFINITELY have to risk appearing arrogant to speak the truth. In this day and age, anyone that speaks the truth, or says what is right and what is wrong, is practically “always” considered arrogant…..even when you’re being very tactful about it.

        I experience that especially with my own grown sons. It seems like family members are the worst with believing when you speak about what’s right and wrong. It’s just like what Jesus said….”a prophet is not welcomed in his own home town” (something like that)

    • Jay-ar

      Who belongs to the Catholic Church?

      836 “All men are called to this catholic unity of the People of God…. and to it, in different ways, belong or are ordered: the Catholic faithful, others who believe in Christ, and finally all mankind, called by God’s grace to salvation.”320

      837 “Fully incorporated into the society of the Church are those who, possessing the Spirit of Christ, accept all the means of salvation given to the Church together with her entire organization, and who – by the bonds constituted by the profession of faith, the sacraments, ecclesiastical government, and communion – are joined in the visible structure of the Church of Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but ‘in body’ not ‘in heart.'”321

      838 “The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter.”322 Those “who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.”323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound “that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord’s Eucharist.”324

      843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as “a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life.”332

    • Anonymous

      It’s not a matter of narcissism.

      Protestants and Catholics can’t both be right because they contradict each other. Either one is right or both are wrong.

      Salvation requires us to live in the truth, and the fullness of truth exists in the Catholic Church alone. If any other “church” preaches truth, it is only because that truth is Catholic truth.
      This doesn’t mean that Catholics are inherently superior to other people; it simply means that there is only one Church that Christ established, and nobody can find salvation outside of that Church.

      The belief that it doesn’t really matter what religion you are because most people are saved anyways is called “universalism.” It is simply not true.
      A person must direct their faith, their intellect, and their will towards God; this means they must know the truth, believe the truth and live by the truth. Failing to have faith or live a holy life is dangerous, because it places a person in a state of sin. If a person dies in a state of mortal sin, they will be damned. They need not be a murderer or a rapist.

      That’s why it’s important to be Catholic. The Catholic Church has the unique privilege to administer graces in the Sacraments. When we sin we can be reconciled through the Sacrament of Reconciliation. When we are separated from God we can be united to Christ’s Body through the Sacrament of the Eucharist. Protestant “churches” simply can’t do this.

      There is no greater gift in the world to be Catholic, because the Catholic Church can lead us to salvation. That unfortunately means, however, that other “churches” cannot.

      This video sheds light on the truth. Please take the time to watch this:

    • Najib Nasr

      Took me two years to get to you, Dear Dianne. There is no arrogance involved. This is the STARK TRUTH! It hurts? Yes, it does hurt Catholics who do not know enough about their Faith! You are sympathetic about Protestants? Sure. We are too. The Church teaches that “However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers …. All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church”(CCC 818).

      Many of them will be saved, ending up in Purgatory, which they do not believe in because they removed the only book that speaks directly of that state (2 Maccabees 12:46). But, we must do them charity (as in love) and lead them to the fullness of the Faith and to Paradise, which starts right now, on this earth. They are immersed in heresy/semi-heresy, and, many of them, in the sin of Incredulity, not believing many of the revelations of Jesus Christ and those of His Holy Spirit who later, at Pentecost and thereafter, taught the Apostles, supernaturally, in keeping with the promise of Christ: “I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth” (John 16:12-13).

      This supernatural refresher course was given ORALLY. For some 20 years, NOTHING WAS WRITTEN. Some 300 years later, the writings of AD 48-95 were gathered into the Holy Bible. THE HOLY BIBLE WAS EXTRACTED FROM THE SACRED ORAL WORD! The Catholic Church guarded all of God’s revelations, ORAL and WRITTEN, through Apostolic Succession, by the Laying on of Hands of Moses (Numbers 27:18-23; Deuteronomy 34:9), Jesus (Luke 24:51) and the bishops (1 Timothy 4:14; 2 Timothy 1:6; Hebrews 6:1-2).

      Is it so hard for a Protestant to ascertain the Truth of these facts and repent of his pastors’ Incredulity?!!! God bless you and all.

      • Louise Ingebrethsen

        Najib Nasr…………….Amen, Amen to that……you are right on with the facts !!!

        I just wish that all protestants would believe this !!!

  • jay

    The fact that this article presupposes that the catholic faith is the only one true way does not mean anyone, who knows the reason why they are catholics in the first place, should question their being catholics. In my opinion this article represents the view of one person and should not make anyone question their faith. As a ‘thinking being’ every individual has the free right whether to believe or not. In as much as I choose not to believe all it’s contents in it’s entirety, I find this article very educating and mind opening and opens room for more thought.

    • Anonymous

      What is stated here is not the thought of any “one person.” It is the official position of the Catholic Church.

  • MissMaryJane

    Bravo! This is excellent and Truth.


    Wow, Thanks for speaking the Truth. No matter if it hurts peoples feelings”, the Truth is the Truth and Christ didnt start 52,000 (and counting) “churches”. He started One and gave all power and authority to it, His Bride.

    • Louise

      Amen Amen to that !!!

  • luther didn’t start a new church.
    instead the roman church splitted from the gospel and the unity of church – they divided the church with their wrong teachings.
    just saying.

    • koda

      “just saying” is wrong.

    • Anonymous

      Here’s the truth about Martin Luther:

      His belief in “Scripture alone” was wholly unjustified because he determined for himself what should be considered Scripture.

      He removed Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1 Maccabeees and 2 Maccabees from the Bible because they refuted his heresies regarding purgatory.

      2 Maccabees 12:42,43-45 “They turned to prayer, beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out. In doing this he acted very well and honorably, taking account of the resurrection. For if he were not expecting that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead. But if he was looking to the splendid reward that is laid up for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.”

      He also attempted to remove the books of James, Jude, Hebrews, and Revelations, but his followers stopped him. This is what he had to say about the book of James:

      “St. James’ epistle is really an epistle of straw, compared to these others, for it has nothing of the nature of the Gospel about it.”

      “That epistle of James gives us much trouble, for the papists embrace it alone, and leave out all the rest. Up to this point, I have been accustomed just to deal with it and interpret it according to the sense of the rest of the Scriptures, for you will judge that none of it must be set for contrary to manifest Holy Scripture. Accordingly, if they will not admit my interpretations, then I shall make rubble also of it. I almost feel like throwing Jimmy into the stove.”

      Additionally, he added the word “alone” to Romans 3:28 in his German translation of the Bible.

      It’s quite likely that Martin Luther was possessed by demons. He reported that he was visited by demonic spirits frequently.

      He stated the following in one of his accounts: “When I woke last night, the devil came and wanted to debate with me. He rebuked and reproached me, arguing that I was a sinner. To this I replied, ‘Tell me something new, Devil! I already know that perfectly well; I have committed many a solid and real sin. Indeed there must be good honest sins – not fabricated and invented ones for God to forgive.”

      His followers also reported the following of him:

      “These demons haunt the imagination of Martin Luther who had visions, which he believed to be actual physical occurrences of the devil hurling excrement at him and his hurling it back. Indeed, in one of his many anal combats with the devil, in which Luther would challenge the devil to ‘lick’ his posterior, Luther thought the best tactic might be ‘to throw him into my anus, where he belongs.'”

      He also stated that the idea of justification through faith alone came to him as “knowledge from the Holy Spirit while I was on the privy in the tower.” In other words, the idea came to him while he was on the toilet.

      He asserted simply ungodly things about sin.

      He once stated, “God does not save people who are only fictitious sinners. Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly. No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day.”

      He was disturbingly violent.

      Luther suggested that he and his supporters should murder the pope and the cardinals and “wash their hands in their blood.”

      He also reportedly rejoiced upon hearing that his Protestant rival, Zwingli, was cut into small pieces by opposing armies.

      Martin Luther was also a hypocrite. He challenged the pope for interpreting Scripture, but he admitted that he did the same thing.

      He also criticized the political corruption of the papal court but advocated the massacre of thousands of peasants by nobles so he could maintain his influence in Germany.

      He was an evil and confused man who shattered the unity of Christendom.

  • Jay-ar

    838 “The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter.”322 Those “who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.”323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound “that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord’s Eucharist.”324

    844 In their religious behavior, however, men also display the limits and errors that disfigure the image of God in them:

    Very often, deceived by the Evil One, men have become vain in their reasonings, and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and served the creature rather than the Creator. Or else, living and dying in this world without God, they are exposed to ultimate despair.333

  • Najib Nasr

    Since St. Ignatius of Antioch, who was martyred in 107 A.D., was the first on record to call the Church, the Catholic Church, and since he was the disciple of John and was ordained by Peter as Bishop of Antioch and remained Bishop for some 40 years, and since he had 30+ years in common with John, who died around 95 A.D., then, the words of St. Ignatius are the Gospel Truth. St. Ignatius said:

    “Do not err, my brethren. If any man follows him that makes a schism in the Church, he shall not inherit the kingdom of God. If any one walks according to a strange opinion, he agrees not with the Passion of Christ.”

    “For as many as are of God and of Jesus Christ are also with the bishop, and as many as shall, in the exercise of repentance, return into the unity of the Church, these, too, shall belong to God, that they may live according to Jesus Christ.” Letter to the Philadelphians (3:2)

  • little_lamb

    I do believe that Jesus Christ is a just Judge. Salvation is through Him, I am a Catholic and I believe that the church will be reunited and bonded by Christ Jesus. In the book of Revelation it spoke of 7 Churches…. I strongly believe that mine is Philadelphia since I feel the Holy Spirit every time I read it. Can you explain what the 7 churches means? Even the angels have no authority to rebuke and judge any of the churches….. I love the Blessed Virgin Mary and her Immaculate Heart and Adore the Sacred Heart of Jesus!

    • Buster

      Yes, 7 particular churches. Either what we’d consider diocese are possibly even parishes.

  • koda

    I see some of these posts are afraid or concerned that this information on the truth of the Church can be confused as prideful or boastful to some degree. Just think of this, in a world where many watered down the truth over long periods of time, spread falsehoods about the Church, cafeteria Catholics increase in number, it is okay to “do your own thing” mentality, as a world falling away from God and his sacraments and trying desperately to find normalcy in a world of chaos and scandal, abortion; the legal murder of children, the intentional killing of the traditional family, and the over-concerned guided by “mis”compassion of NOT JUDGING others based on the misguided personal interpretation of “cast the first stone” (John 8:7), etc. as the list unfortunately continues, yes I agree, the Truth can seem prideful and boastful … but not for the fault of Truth being spoken, but for fault of society rejecting Truth for so long.

    • Louise Ingebrethsen

      You are sooooo right, I couldn’t have said it better myself !!!

  • Cilla

    I love the Roman Catholic Church and I would love to come back but it hurt me to see my brethren kneeling beneath statues of Mary and other people who died a long time ago (Saints?) When I read my bible from cover to cover, the only thing I could relate my feeling to was the people who made their own Gods and bowed to them. I know that Catholics are intelligent people but I am only a very simple woman – I was never the brightest crayon in the box. I pray to God and I am afraid that anything else seems a bit too complicated for me right now. When people brighter than me try to explain it, I just get more confused as though I am seeing that the Emperor is naked but expected to say he is clothed but I just can’t see it.

    • Najib Nasr

      Dear Cilla, this is what I wrote elswhere about your concern: Thank you, Father Thomas, for interjecting on a subject our Separated Brethren have no access to its components, and our Catholic brethren know not how to defend. Allow me to add: The People of God came out of 450 years spent in Egyptian idol territory and were placed under training. They were given a simple rule: make nothing so as to worship it! (Exodus 20:3-6) However, for the purpose of worshiping the one and only God, we may make things like what is in heaven and on earth. Moses and Aaron did for worship purposes: Shapes of angels of gold were constructed (Exodus 25:18); shapes of Seraphim were embroidered (Exodus 26:31) God told Moses to make a bronze serpent and mount it on a pole (Numbers 21:8-9; Wisdom 16:5-14), as you said, so that whoever looked at it would be healed from the snake bites. This is what Wisdom 16:7 says regarding same: “For he who turned toward it was saved, not by what he saw, but by you, the savior of all.” With us, it is the same: we do not worship what we see, but, the one it signifies. When I kiss the photo of my wife and children, I am not loving the Kodak paper. With the advent of the Son of God, just as our Sabbath is now a Sunday and not a Saturday (Acts 20:7), as the Ten Commandments specify, so we have a new economy of images. Only priests did images with the Jews. But, now, as Christians, we are all priests (1 Peter 2:9; Revelation 1:6), yet, we have the priesthood service distinct from the laity.

      As regards the Blessed Virgin Mary, she is part of the Communion of Saints, as the Apostles’ Creed specifies, but, she is much, much more than that. She is the only one in the Bible who is not Divine, yet, she is the only one God said through His messenger that she is full of Grace (Luke 1:28). She was Virgin before during and after she gave birth to our Lord and God (Isaiah 7:14).

      You have to call the Blessed Virgin Mary, Blessed, because, this is what the Bible says (Luke 1:48). If you say she said so, I would have to remind you that she was filled with the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35), and at the moment of greeting her cousin Elizabeth, Elizabeth became “filled with the Holy Spirit” (Luke 1:41).

      The Blessed Virgin Mary is Mediatrix of All Graces and Advocate. To you, it sounds preposterous. Jesus is the only Mediator between the Father and humans. Yes, but, the Blessed Virgin Mary is mediator between us and Jesus, just as we are (the Communion of Saints). The Church employed typology from the Old Testament to show that the queen mother rules with the king; not his wife (2 Kings 10:13; 2 Chronicles 15:15-16; Jeremiah 13:18; the note on Jeremiah 22:26; 29:1-2). Thus, the Church employed typology from the Old Testament for portraying the role of the Blessed Virgin Mary as the Mediatrix, the dispenser of all graces for her Son, the King of kings (1 Kings 2:19; CCC 969).

      Jesus Christ instituted one and only one Church and He installed Peter as her chief shepherd (Matthew 16:18-19, is in the singular). Jesus Christ gave the Keys of the Kingdom only to Peter and to no other (Matthew 16:18-19). Jesus Christ instituted one and only one Church (Matthew 16:18-19), and St. Ignatius of Antioch (d. 107 A.D.) called her the Catholic Church [Letter to the Smyrnians (8:1-2)]. St. Ignatius of Antioch was the disciple of John and was ordained by Peter. He therefore knew what he was talking about and his words are the Gospel Truth; and his writings, the Seven Letters, by God’s providence, survived and are with us (Just Google: seven letters of).
      Therefore, the Catholic Church is neither a sect nor a denomination [Letter to the Smyrnians (8:1-2); Matthew 16:18-19; and CCC 817]. All other churches are. I could go on and on, but, this is not the place for a course. I am ready to show you that the Catholic church is scriptural in every way, all the way.

      Dear Cilla, your church is far removed from the experience of the Catholic Church with the Apostles. An open heart to the Truths of God will open new horizons for you. God bless.

      • Cilla

        You may be surprised how much I could add to your response because you are sounding exactly like me before I read the bible cover to cover (BTW – at the time I only had a Jerusalem Bible). Maybe I will send YOU something I wrote.

        • Najib Nasr

          Please do, my friend, and we will take it from there. If you go to Facebook and search for me, pick on the picture of a pilot. God bless.

        • Buster

          Jesus prayed to the Angels. According to you, I guess he must have worshiped false idols.

          • alohalady

            I definitely believe in praying to the angels & saints, but where in the bible does it say that Jesus prayed to the angels ? I know in the Garden of Gethsemane he was helped by an angel, but it doesn’t say that he prayed to the angel.

            So please tell me where, so I can tell others.

          • Najib Nasr

            Brother Buster, Jesus could not have prayed to the angels, because: “he took his seat at the right hand of the Majesty on high, as far superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs” (Hebrews 1:3-4). The angels are messengers and executer’s of God’s will, and Jesus is God. God bless.

        • Anonymous

          The Bible is a Catholic document consisting of sources written by Catholic saints compiled by a Catholic Church Council.

          Nothing in the Bible contradicts Catholic dogma because the Bible is an account of Catholic dogma.

  • milksteak

    If you send this to your prot friends send it with a disclaimer its meant to be polemical and to start a discusion. If you dont, they say you are calling them evil spawns of satan for not being rc. Which i mean they’re kinda right but you wont convert anyone with name calling, ya know……

  • julie

    Wow!!! I just absolutely loved this. This subject is always in my heart and this article just helped it burn in my heart even more. I became a Catholic in 93. The church is my greatest treasure! thanks for posting.

  • Davis

    Paganism did not die out as a result of the growth of “The Church” i.e. Catholic Church. The marriage of church and state were the events that were responsible for giving popes the possibilities to live in lavish wealth and to rule along with Kings (politically, mind you, not spiritually, which has nothing to do with the intended role of the spiritual leaders that God intended to exist to guide the church that is waiting for the arrival of the heavenly Kingdom.) Many of the lavish and complicated rituals used for the Eucharist (including the “dress-code” of the priests) have been adopted as a result of the newly-found pleasures that the world had to offer to the leaders of the Catholic church. The hypocrisy didn’t stop there however. Sales of indulgences? Used to build one of the most expensive buildings in the world, St. Peter’s Basilica. As soon as the coin hits the bottom of the box, the soul of the beloved one shoots out of purgatory…..REALLY now? Fading of paganism huh? I’m sorry but I think it’s quite the contrary.

  • Louise Ingebrethsen

    Najib Nasr…………….Amen, Amen to that……you are right on with the facts !!!

    I just wish that all protestants would believe this !!!

  • john

    I would have this article and the comments in french